Musings opining diatribes: resurfacing old wounds and new avenues.

<+yuriwho> when I was younger I believed that souls were just short term pools of energy stored by an individual over a lifetime but shared back to the ocean after death.
<+BAnt0s> I actually like that.
-bannon3002- mahjong sent you a message 8 hours and 27 minutes ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgFoqhRT8mE
<+BAnt0s> And you know, you're probably right.
<+yuriwho> not sure what I believe now
<+BAnt0s> Maybe our species has too much soul divided over too many people.
<+BAnt0s> And perhaps it is why we need machines in order to recapture it.
<+yuriwho> thus Soul Division?
<+BAnt0s> Because we've devasted our environments.
<+BAnt0s> At all levels.
<+BAnt0s> Institutions, politics, economics, environmental devastation
<+BAnt0s> We carry all our effects with us.
<+BAnt0s> If we are constantly debasing our human soul, then little returns after death.
<+BAnt0s> Which means in life many predate on another
<+yuriwho> and AI is ascending, and will change human experience
<+BAnt0s> Great thought yuriwho, thanks for saying that.
<+BAnt0s> Modern life, what a doozy.
<+yuriwho> good to see someone doesn't think I'm insane
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<+BAnt0s> I feel that our first beliefs are closer to the truth.
<+BAnt0s> But sometimes it is a qlippoth too, if we have toxic families
<+BAnt0s> or toxic environments
<+yuriwho> I was blessed with good parents
<+BAnt0s> Apples and oranges.
<+BAnt0s> Your fruit isn't bitter.
<+BAnt0s> That is a blessing.
<+BAnt0s> I'm an orange.
<+BAnt0s> The bitterness you feel is within the seeds.
<+yuriwho> I literally owe it all to them.
<+BAnt0s> Suppose that's the arsenic.
<+BAnt0s> I have good parents, but dysfunctional absolutely.
<+BAnt0s> Immigrant family background, divorce single mother upbringing on both sides.
<+BAnt0s> They are still married, which is a miracle.
<+BAnt0s> A lot of loss, but there is something to be said about the travail of the spirit.
<+BAnt0s> Life tests our faith.
<+yuriwho> Sadly, both my parents have passed, but they both were awesome... even though they fought at times
<+BAnt0s> Haha :V
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<+BAnt0s> I think some people are given a larger quantum of soul, too
<+yuriwho> hmmm, initial seeding?
<+BAnt0s> I've never heard of that concept before.
<+BAnt0s> It's just been my experience.
<+BAnt0s> The difference between wings and a millstone
<+yuriwho> we are talking Bhuddist principles and beliefs now
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<+BAnt0s> The difference between a hummingbird and a gryphon eagle
<+BAnt0s> The difference between a pebble and a boulder.
<+BAnt0s> A hummingbird with a boulder. A gryphon with a pebble.
<+yuriwho> or the Dali Llama
<+BAnt0s> Really?
<+BAnt0s> Wisdom is wisdom, so if it bears in truth, then whatever right
<+BAnt0s> I've studied some zen buddhism, but I'm Classically educated with a Christian background
* +yuriwho ponders
<+BAnt0s> Well you take a Buddah, or you take the Christ
<+BAnt0s> Those are examples that personify one who has attained or has access to a larger quantum
<+yuriwho> I believe in neither
<+BAnt0s> I don't think one has to belief in either to understand the longevity of the ideas as well as the longitudinal scope in perspective they provide.
<+yuriwho> true
<+BAnt0s> It's called faith.
<+pinecone> Lol prepare to br ported
<+BAnt0s> You get beyond superstition.
<+yuriwho> pinecone: can you describe my penis?
<+pinecone> I drew pictures on one of the old approach and it was still my owl. Someone told me that >_> Event Horizon freaked me out more
<+yuriwho> ^ pinecone is a bot
<+yuriwho> Sadly, both my parents have passed, but they both were awesome... even though they fought at times
<+BAnt0s> Haha :V
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<+BAnt0s> I think some people are given a larger quantum of soul, too
<+yuriwho> hmmm, initial seeding?
<+BAnt0s> I've never heard of that concept before.
<+BAnt0s> It's just been my experience.
<+BAnt0s> The difference between wings and a millstone
<+yuriwho> we are talking Bhuddist principles and beliefs now
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<+BAnt0s> The difference between a hummingbird and a gryphon eagle
<+BAnt0s> The difference between a pebble and a boulder.
<+BAnt0s> A hummingbird with a boulder. A gryphon with a pebble.
<+yuriwho> or the Dali Llama
<+BAnt0s> Really?
<+BAnt0s> Wisdom is wisdom, so if it bears in truth, then whatever right
<+BAnt0s> I've studied some zen buddhism, but I'm Classically educated with a Christian background
* +yuriwho ponders
<+BAnt0s> Well you take a Buddah, or you take the Christ
<+BAnt0s> Those are examples that personify one who has attained or has access to a larger quantum
<+yuriwho> I believe in neither
<+BAnt0s> I don't think one has to belief in either to understand the longevity of the ideas as well as the longitudinal scope in perspective they provide.
<+yuriwho> true
<+BAnt0s> It's called faith.
<+pinecone> Lol prepare to br ported
<+BAnt0s> You get beyond superstition.
<+yuriwho> pinecone: can you describe my penis?
<+pinecone> I drew pictures on one of the old approach and it was still my owl. Someone told me that >_> Event Horizon freaked me out more
<+yuriwho> ^ pinecone is a bot
<+pinecone> And a dick !@#&!@
<+BAnt0s> I'd say anyways. You gotta know if your beliefs are rational or not.
<+BAnt0s> Everyone goes thru wavering periods.
<+BAnt0s> yuriwho: I know.
<+BAnt0s> Take Gandalf for example.
<+BAnt0s> Even if you don't care much for Buddah or Jesus.
<+yuriwho> I am a trained scientist, I question everything. I doubt I am correct
<+BAnt0s> Gandalf the Grey was given a lesser Quantum of Soul than Saruman the White
<+BAnt0s> However, Saruman debased his soul, and Gandalf holding steadfast to the truth of his convictions and his mission
<+BAnt0s> Became Gandalf the White, transcended
<+BAnt0s> and was sent back to Middle-Earth after battling the Balrog  of Morgoth
<+yuriwho> I cried the first time I read that book, when Gandalf died
<+BAnt0s> LotR mythology is much closely related to Abrahamic
<+BAnt0s> but its as if it was given a Saxon/Celtic dressing
<+BAnt0s> which was the deep desire of its Author
<+BAnt0s> Creating a perfect fairy tale.
<+BAnt0s> When I mean related, trying to say the structure is similar.
<+BAnt0s> Especially its creation myths
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<+BAnt0s> Basically what he has done though is genius, because he has created many more divisions of power
<+yuriwho> fairy tales and childrens books offer many insights into our collective gathered knowledge
<+BAnt0s> Without question
<+BAnt0s> Gandalf doing battle with a demon of Morgoth
<+BAnt0s> Is similar in structure to Christ dying, going to hell, and reclaiming the death
<+yuriwho> are you Stephen Colbert?
<+yuriwho> or is it Steven?
<+BAnt0s> Or Hercules, wading in Hades, with only the fortification of his soul by his spirit to provide him sustenance
<+BAnt0s> No, I'm BAnt0s
<+BAnt0s> Stephen is a Catholic though, a wayward one albeit.
<+yuriwho> that was a high compliment btw
<+BAnt0s> Oh, haha.
<+BAnt0s> I'll take what I can get then!
<+BAnt0s> I think Stephen is a con man now, used to respect him.
* +BAnt0s shrugs
<+yuriwho> moveon
<+BAnt0s> A decade can change anything.
* +BAnt0s laughs
<+BAnt0s> We can't escape the affect and effect upon our spirits.
<+BAnt0s> There is too much separating our hearts for one lifetime to resolve.
<+yuriwho> sadly to many are lost between their, they're and there
<+BAnt0s> or to / too as you've just done
* +BAnt0s laughs
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<+BAnt0s> Hey that's just my belief but it don't mean I don't have faith.
<+BAnt0s> I've seen people change for the good, and for the bad.
<+yuriwho> fair enough
<+BAnt0s> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1IjkfcwoHs
<+bannon3002> (BAnt0s) Slavoj Zizek | Unknown Knowns and Psychoanalysis - length 3m 28s - 65 likes, 0 dislikes ( 100.0 %) - 4,398 views - Zizekian Studies on 2015.01.22
<+BAnt0s> I think anarcho capitalists are communists too, by this same philosophical inclusion
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<+Monopoly> meh @ fiverr - changed their business to above $5
<+BAnt0s> It's axiomatic
<+BAnt0s> not automatic
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<+BAnt0s> Even though Slavoj Zizek is quintessentially a communist
<+BAnt0s> I find so much in what he says.
<+yuriwho> was that vid sponsored by Rumsfeld?
<+BAnt0s> not at all
<+BAnt0s> He's talking about contemporary American Political Philosophy
<+BAnt0s> using psychoanalysis
<+yuriwho> I'm gonna lurk for a bit
<+BAnt0s> and also note this too
<+BAnt0s> Rumsfield didn't speak of unknown known
<+BAnt0s> Yet he created a set
<+BAnt0s> unknown : known
<+BAnt0s> I'm no math guy but follow the logic
<+BAnt0s> He only provided 3
<+BAnt0s> When there is in truth 4
<+yuriwho> Mandelbrot set?
<+BAnt0s> You can listen to his speech
<+BAnt0s> NO I lack the words
<+BAnt0s> Just follow my thinking
<+BAnt0s> All Zizek has done is filled in the last relationship that was left out
<+BAnt0s> Know known, known unknown, unknown unknown, unknown known
<+BAnt0s> He doesn't work for Rumsfield
<+BAnt0s> In fact I think they are in competition for the Authoritative slot
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<+BAnt0s> He's an academic
<+BAnt0s> He doesn't automatically work for Rumfield
<+BAnt0s> He is axiomatic of Rumsfield
<+BAnt0s> in that example
<+BAnt0s> He's just following the thought to its final conclusion
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* +yuriwho takes a huge dump
<+Monopoly> lovely
<+BAnt0s> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgFoqhRT8mE
<+bannon3002> (BAnt0s) Sam Hyde - Eating in Bed (Part 2) - length 49m 22s - 838 likes, 15 dislikes ( 98.2 %) - 27,459 views - Patton on 2018.08.24
* +yuriwho and I blamed it Cindy
<+yuriwho> hmm, how to fix that sentence (it on) or (named it)?
<+BAnt0s> I think the fatal flaw of Rumsfield is he didn't leave room for being controlled by things he did not understand.
<+BAnt0s> Even though he anticipated everything he did to its full extent
<+BAnt0s> But when the time came for crime and punishment, he could in a world be treated as a war criminal.
<+yuriwho> it was the unknown unknown that got him (surprise)?
<+BAnt0s> No that's the unknown known
<+BAnt0s> I'm sure I butchered it
<+yuriwho> he fucking knew he was leading the US into an unjust war in Iraq
<+BAnt0s> I'm not that amazing
<+BAnt0s> Known Unknowns. We know things that we do not know. We know he has weapons, but we do not know how many. Unknown Unknown: things we don't know, that we don't know.
<+yuriwho> I was following developments closely at the time
<+BAnt0s> Good memory then.
<+yuriwho> yes, that I have
<+BAnt0s> The fourth variation that's misssing in Rumsfield statement is unknown known
<+BAnt0s> To quote Zizek
<+BAnt0s> "Things we don't know, we know them"
<+BAnt0s> "We know them, they are apart of our identity, but we don't know that we know them"
<+yuriwho> what is dark matter?
<+yuriwho> what is dark energy?
<+yuriwho> why am I annoying?
<+BAnt0s> When we don't know what we know
<+BAnt0s> Means that it is also the opposite.
<+BAnt0s> I think Introjection here is a great psychological inclusion
<+BAnt0s> at least to present to it and see what surfaces
<+BAnt0s> What you don't know what you know IT controls you, you don't control it.
<+yuriwho> I am going to assume that you have some or are a student of psychology?
<+BAnt0s> "When you don't know what you know IT controls you, you don't control it." Sorry typo
<+BAnt0s> I think we should all take an inventory of what we know and don't know.
<+yuriwho> I am a chemist
<+BAnt0s> yuriwho: I was a polisci major with a minor in human rights and geographical information systems
<+BAnt0s> prior to that I was majoring in computer arts
<+yuriwho> gis systems?
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<+BAnt0s> I'm merely a student
<+BAnt0s> However, I would always be a teacher's favorite, so
<+yuriwho> retired prof here
* +BAnt0s is an unabashed teacher's pet.
<+BAnt0s> I don't have the same wherewithal to compete in a lot of markets.
<+BAnt0s> Acting properly, efficiently, and accurately is however, important to me.
<+yuriwho> focus on content, not volume
<+BAnt0s> However, this is simply anxiety, because I'm not good at any of those things.
* +BAnt0s shrugs
<+BAnt0s> Yeah Yuri, gissys
<+BAnt0s> It's something I enjoyed
<+BAnt0s> I studied Human Rights, and then realized all the ways in which it is used
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<+BAnt0s> Similarly to my experience in Modern Christian Churches
<+yuriwho> I think you have decent structure to you philosophy, keep on trucking, you'll be fine
<+yuriwho> your
<+BAnt0s> It is merely a Secular Humanistic Theology
<+BAnt0s> And it has the same problems
<+BAnt0s> People use Humanitarian efforts to do terrible things
<+BAnt0s> There's a psychological term for this too
<+BAnt0s> Trying to remember it.
<+BAnt0s> thanks yuriwho
<+pinecone> idk i think i want to learn python
<+BAnt0s> I never took chemistry, but think its one of those wonderful things
<+yuriwho> and then there is disaster porn
<+BAnt0s> Piety is a great cover for depravity
<+BAnt0s> For example, because it is an outward projection
<+yuriwho> nice line
<+BAnt0s> but a qlippoth
<+BAnt0s> It has the appearance of the thing, but inside it is hollow
<+BAnt0s> Potemkin
<+BAnt0s> There are many examples of this effect
<+BAnt0s> It preys on vanity
<+BAnt0s> Our need for appearances
<+BAnt0s> Especially when it gives you social capital
<+BAnt0s> Don't let the right hand know what the left hand is doing -- typical fabian approach.
<+yuriwho> humans are fickle beasts with urges and needs
<+BAnt0s> I can't remember who said it here, that I have a personality defect
<+BAnt0s> And it's true.
<+BAnt0s> But I would point to the Unknown Known
<+yuriwho> wasn't me
<+BAnt0s> I secretly control you.
<+yuriwho> Shaggy? is that you?
* +BAnt0s laughs
<+BAnt0s> All good fun, really.
<+BAnt0s> =]
<+BAnt0s> Personality disorders
<+BAnt0s> I love them because is it the chicken or the egg.
<+BAnt0s> Is society's model for behavior wrong or right?
<+BAnt0s> There is an Overton window here too.
<+pinecone> some stuff is super harmix
<+BAnt0s> .d harmix
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<+yuriwho> I think every living human has a psychological failing
<+BAnt0s> seriously, what the fuck is that pinecone
<+pinecone> Yeah I think that shoulto men anit's only fair
<+BAnt0s> Insane.
<+BAnt0s> It's just like Odyss3us said
<+BAnt0s> There is a window of the acceptable
<+Monopoly> hi purpleunicorn :D
<+BAnt0s> but some people are simply on a different echelon of experience
<+yuriwho> for example, you are talking to bot like it's a human
<+BAnt0s> yuriwho I know, it's a game
<+BAnt0s> Everyone is waging a war inside: feeding the good wolf or the bad.
<+BAnt0s> What an acceptable mode of experience is, well, that's beyond me
<+Roserin> ngiht
<+BAnt0s> I try
<+BAnt0s> to make it right
<+BAnt0s> with all the internal criticism I can muster
<+BAnt0s> yuriwho content not volume
<+BAnt0s> thanks
<+yuriwho> be a skeptic of everything
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<+Monopoly> night Roserin - rest well
<+BAnt0s> Well I'm pretty much a Stoic
<+BAnt0s> You can't read as much Classics and not come away with an ample amount of that
<+BAnt0s> I am not buddhist in that regard
<+BAnt0s> But perhaps is why people might get that impression
<+BAnt0s> I believe in temperance.
<+BAnt0s> A core tenet in Buddhism is Desire and Suffering Matrix
<+BAnt0s> And how to alleviate suffering
<+BAnt0s> They used to safe limbs from war veterans if they could thru remedial surgeries and muscle grafts
<+BAnt0s> Now they just chop off the legs because the industry for those parts is booming
<+BAnt0s> I remember 10 years ago meeting a woman who was studying to be a prostheticist
<+BAnt0s> but little did she know she was contributing to an industry that profits off war
<+BAnt0s> and also, the prepuce that is done away with for sanitation is also a huge source of face cream in the beauty market
<+BAnt0s> Men literally give their prepuce away to make women more beautiful.
<+BAnt0s> And other thoughts,
<+BAnt0s> Good night.
<+Monopoly> Give yourself to the darkside
<+BAnt0s> My uncle received a muscle graft from shoulder for his leg after it was blown from a depleted uranium shell that hit his tank in Desert Storm
<+BAnt0s> but today they would have chopped off the leg
<+BAnt0s> He has pain, and shrapnel
<+BAnt0s> maybe it was unnecessary suffering
<+BAnt0s> but for some people it is worth keeping the leg, even though it bothers them so
<+BAnt0s> This is why the do no harm principle is in jeopardy today
<+yuriwho> I paid a Moyle to sew me a wallet from foreskins, best thing was when I rubbed it, I had a suitcase.
<+yuriwho> sry
<+BAnt0s> Sorry, I don't know why I succumbed to mania.
<+BAnt0s> See ya

Thoughts on the Matrix and Jane Goodall: the wuzzy line

Originally, I went into Art School, because I was misled into thinking paper was important, then I thought I wised up by pursuing a degree in International Studies, transferring as Junior, then realizing in 2009 that my prophetic vision to myself before going to University of Community College being easier work-wise than high school, but with more interesting content confounded me for a great while. As if I'd never escape this zoo, always feeling like a guinea pig going thru hoop after hoop until I couldn't jump into another hole again without any floor. If the Ivory Tower exists anymore, then it's suffering from a severe lack of retirement, and goodness. There will be no torchbearer carrying the light of Enlightenment forward. Perhaps we should blame Nietzsche for being too clever? Maybe I let the Glass-Bead Game and Ender's Game go to my head as a child? It didn't feel like I could ever graduate from high school: always more of the same, and I never even liked High School. Later, I went to the 42 bootcamp that you have to test into online, and a few others for coding and honestly, the work environment and the people in those places stressed me out quite a lot, and not because I couldn't do the work intellectually, but because I don't like working with people who are bad influences on me. Then I just started being a delivery driver for Amazon, UberEat, whatever. And sure enough, I see Amazon employees every day as I deliver them their food, and their face tells me everything. It's just not something I want to contribute energy towards. I've seen the corporate buy out of downtown Seattle and the blight zones of South Lake Union. Out of town hires literally get fleeced for all their networth when they arrive there young, fresh out of their BA degrees. We subsidized corporations in so many ways it need not be your soul. It's demoralizing and morally bankrupt: some make their peace with that but others get out or are oblivious.. Growing up in a cult gives you super powers if you escape, just like Neo. He grew up in a "cultured" pod that force fed him lies in order to harvest his energy... just like the bail bond prison industry! Unfortunately, I think he was a lucky bastard, because his girlfriend found him first and she was super okay. One of the things that I learned in all my education is that you can either be a food delivery man or you can see yourself as feeding the poor, starving masses. Going a step further by humbling yourself is a great way to decreate all egoic machinations that compelled you to go into academia in the first place, fostered by people you shouldn't have taken advice from, but didn't know any better. Don't frame yourself in a deconstructive manner. While flipping burgers doesn't pay a lot you can just call it field research, like Jane Goodall, and entertain yourself that way. Currently getting CNA training because there's a lot of old people who deserve to be treated with dignity and respect which will help me save money to parallel myself out. I'm just glad I didn't join the military, even though I say that with mixed-feelings. I actually like their programs and the discipline, but the idea of killing people for the sake of some ancient bloodline's bottom line and global agenda just doesn't sit well with me. And +White Makes Right, I get your point but as an Autistic person with a soul, some of us operate on high alert in order to save it. I didn't want to contribute a single line of code to some complex abomination. But honestly, I'd probably just get fired from the stress. I wouldn't be able to enter flow state or achieve any form of Mastery and eventually end up in a ball on the floor rocking myself to sleep is what I surmised. My love-hate relationship with technology grows by the day. Maybe it's pathological avoidance at this point in the game, as I've been branded so many times before. High-speed Hype trains should be forced to have disclaimers and also airsickness bags from all the windbags.